Murray Gell-Mann and Jeffrey Epstein

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Jeffrey Epstein Chose New Mexico for a Reason.” That article from New Republic has me asking what. One of them is that New Mexico had an old Atlas Missile Site for him to build a home over, to put a lab in, or whatever he has down there. Another one, at least according to Epstein, was Murray Gell-Mann. Gell-Mann is best known for winning a Nobel Prize in Physics for his work on the “quark,” but research shows that there was a lot more to the man than his interest in subatomic particles. So what was Epstein interested in with Murray Gell-Mann?

Gell-Mann received a bachelor’s degree in Physics from Yale in 1948 and a PhD in Physics from MIT in 1951. At Yale, Gell-Mann “organized one of the break-ins into the Skull and Bones ‘tomb.'” By 1956, he had a “Q clearance for use at Los Alamos.”

Gell-Mann was a pioneer of the JASON group, a DARPA project so secret that no one seems to know for sure what the acronym JASON stands for. One of the group’s public primary purposes was exploring nuclear war game theory with USSR, and negotiations with USSR to prevent such a war. Realistically, JASON scientists were also a think tank for advanced military technologies such as artificial intelligence and genetically-enhanced soldiers, among other things.

I believe the JASON group and likely Murray Gell-Mann were also involved in the development of PROMIS, and the development of “Super Soldiers.”

1956. American Institute of Physics. Gell-Mann: “In 1956 I got a secret clearance at RAND and a Q clearance from the AEC for use at Los Alamos. But the upgrading of the clearances took some time, and in fact, didn’t end until after JASON was actually under way. So for those two reasons I was not present at a lot of the actual sessions and discussions and so on. What we had discussed was a company, and we were persuaded by various elder statesmen that we shouldn’t do that, that what we should do instead was to affiliate with a not for profit organization.”

Late 1950s. American Institute of Physics. Gell-Mann: “I was involved in the founding of JASON, although for some reason the histories don’t seem to mention me. During the late fifties, Murph Goldberger, Keith Bruecker, Ken Watson, Francis Low and I spoke of starting a consulting company, in which we would participate part time during the day or week or so that our faculty positions allowed, to consult for the Defense Department and other branches of the government.”

March 15, 1961. Gell-Mann publishes his paper, THE EIGHTFOLD WAY: A THEORY OF STRONG INTERACTION SYMMETRY, that led to his Nobel Prize in Physics: CERN: “Gell-Mann built upon this work in a new model that could successfully describe – among other things – the magnetic properties of protons and neutrons. But Gell-Mann’s model required the existence of three new elementary particles, which he called ‘quarks.'”

1962. American Institute of Physics. Gell-Mann: But the following summer, the summer of 1962, I spent in Berkeley, largely working on a JASON study. By that time JASON had gotten importantly involved in looking at projects for anti-ballistic missile defense. That was sponsored mostly by ARPA, and many of the problems that people were interested in were connected with technical aspects of ABM. I quickly zeroed in, though, on the fundamental question, for my own interest, of why one should have an ABM defense, and whether one should have an ABM defense. I spent the summer interviewing a great number of people — military officers, civilian scientists, officers or officials of the Department of Defense and so on — about US strategy, especially connected with the use of strategic nuclear weapons, and the relevance to all of that of the project to try to develop a partial anti-ballistic missile defense. Some of the same issues, in fact most of the same issues, are still relevant today.

It looks like artificial intelligence was born around 1967 from the JASON thinktank group. In 1967, the same year Gell-Mann and JASON were interviewing social scientists, there is a report that same year of artificial intelligence human behavoior predictive models being generated from studies based on riots in Detroit. Marvin Minsky is widely considered to be the “father of artificial intelligence” based on his 1960 paper “STEPS TOWARD ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.” There is nothing I can find that Minsky was ever a part of the JASON group, although Minksy was an associate of Jeffrey Epstein later.

1966, 1967. American Institute of Physics. Gell-Mann: At the same time, and not totally independently, some people raised the issue of whether there should be a social science JASON… Well, there was a member of the IDA staff, a psychologist, who was one of the people that who brought it forward. His name was Jesse Orlansky. But there were presumably several people who asked about it. Anyway, around 1966, 1967, we held a study on such matters. It was in our second visit to Woods Hole, in the summer of 1967. And there we discussed the relevance to the DOD and so on of possibly forming such an organization — or the relevance of other ways of utilizing social science advice — in the course of the DOD formulating its policies and methods.

1967. From Crossing the Rubicon, Michael Ruppert, 2004. Herbert “Pug” Winokur, head of Capricorn Investments, and member of the board of the Harvard Endowment is also a PhD mathematician from Harvard where the mathematical breakthroughs that gave rise to artificial intelligence using block-modeling research were discovered. In the 60s Winokur had done social science research for the Department of Defense on causes of inner city unrest in the wake of the 1967 Detroit riots.

The pioneering research at Harvard that allegedly gave rise to the artificial intelligence installed in PROMIS later moved north. According to a Harvard website, “Much of the effort of the Harvard group — no longer based solely at Harvard — was centered on the International Network for Social Network Analysis (INSNA) at Toronto…” (PAGE 154) The information from Tyree, recorded in a phone conversation on August 28, 2000 and the research work on “block-modeling” social research theory uncovered while researching other leads both describe the same unique position or vantage point from hypothetical and actual perspectives. Tyree described an actual physical point in space, further out than ever thought possible and now used by US satellites. This distance is made possible by PROMIS progeny so evolved that they make the original software look primitive. The social research, which included pioneering mathematical work — apparently facilitating the creation of artificial intelligence — postulated that a similar remote hypothetical position would eliminate randomness from all human activity. Everything would be visible in terms of measurable and predictable patterns — the ultimate big picture.

Late 1970s. From Crossing the Rubicon, Michael Ruppert, 2004. Artificial Intelligence is added to financial software from the firm owned by Jackson Stephens called Systematics. Systematics ran 60-70% of all electronic financial transactions at the time. By adding artificial intelligence to financial software, it became possible to predict future financial transactions and profit from it. I’m not sure what the link between Systematics and INSLAW is but INSLAW pitched a sale of this technology to the government called PROMIS, or Prosecutor’s Management Information System.

In 1981, Ronald Reagan assumes the office of President. Edwin Meese, Reagan’s “counselor,” became enamored with PROMIS. He told a group of prosecutors in April 1981 about the potential for PROMIS to track criminals across multiple databases. By March 1982 PROMIS was installed in 20 United State’s Attorney’s offices. Meese started selling PROMIS to foreign countries. Israel was one of the first to get PROMIS. Rafael Etian left the DOJ with a copy of in in 1983. Israel modified PROMIS and sold their own versions of it. All types of government agencies and financial institutions around the world ran some version of this software. It contained spyware. It’s likely that Israel in addition to the United States was able to monitor every system that was running this software.

1982. China is investigated for Espionage at Los Alamos National Laboratory but the FBI drops it.

In 1984, Murray Gell-Mann and several other physicists from the Los Alamos National Laboratory founded the Santa Fe Institute (New York Times). Gell-Mann was interviewed by Bill Moyers on the Santa Fe Institute. It sounds to me like Gell-Mann said they were trying to model all types of things with artificial intelligence at Santa Fe Institute.

Bill Murray Gell-Mann: “It’s necessary that people study particular fields deeply, simply because our knowledge has become so detailed about things that it’s necessary to pursue specialized study. But that shouldn’t be to the exclusion of the concern with unity in human culture. I see them both as very important. At the Santa Fe Institute, we try to do that. This is our principal mission, or the principal mission.  BILL MOYERS: To do what? MURRAY GELL-MANN: To study issues that transcend so many of these specialized subjects, while utilizing the skills that people who are familiar, responsibly familiar with the facts of a lot of different specialties, to look for principles, laws, that cover many of them at once. In particular, the study of complex adaptive systems. BILL MOYERS: Complex adaptive systems? MURRAY GELL-MANN: Yeah. Systems that can evolve or learn or adapt, and they would include-such systems would include biological evolution as a whole, the evolution of biological organisms on the Earth, the evolution of ecological systems on the Earth. The telical evolution that preceded the first life. That’s called prebiotic chemical evolution, which one can try to imitate to some extent in the laboratory. And then, many things that arose as a result of biological evolution, for example, individual learning and thinking. Human cultural evolution, including such things as the evolution of language, the global economy as involving complex systems. All of these have a great many things in common, because learning, adaptation, and evolution are all very similar phenomena.

1985. Rafel Eitan sold Promis to Los Alamos’s Sandia Laboratories.  (Gideon’s Spies, page 412). According to other accounts, Robert Maxwell was the salesman. According to Mintpress, Eitan recruited Maxwell to be a salesman. The FBI investigated Robert Maxwell for selling PROMIS software to Sandia Laboratory, then they dropped it. In any case it’s clear that Israel bugged Los Alamos with PROMIS, which apparently went from the United States, to Israel, and back to the United States.

March 1986. “A group from Los Alamos National Laboratory, led by Mark Bitensky, convenes DOE’s first meeting on sequencing the human genome, held in Santa Fe, New Mexico.”

February 22, 1993. New Mexico grands a lease to Jeffrey Epstein’s Zorro Trust. NY Mag: Epstein said he chose to build in New Mexico because he found himself spending a lot of time in conversation with Murray Gell-Mann.

Epstein later built a home in New Mexico over what appears to be an abandoned Atlas missile silo. I wonder what he was doing with that underground space at Zorro Ranch.

Murray Gell-Mann gave Jeff Epstein credit for financing his 1994 book “The Quark and the Jaguar” through the Santa Fe Institute.

May, 1994. New York Times article where John Brockman claims to be Murray Gell-Mann’s “literary agent.” Brockman ran a “salon” he called “The Reality Club” for intellectuals to get together and have discussions from 1981-1997. In 1997 Brockman created the Edge Foundation and continued these meetings. Epstein was a financial backer of the Edge Foundation and a regular at these meetings, which they began calling “Billionaire’s Dinners” at some point after they began inviting wealthy people to these meetings. Seth Lloyd is mentioned in this New York Times article as a “protege” of Gell-Mann. Lloyd worked at Los Alamos National Laboratory at the time. Lloyd attended Edge Billionaire’s Dinner in 2004 and visited Epstein in “prison” in 2009.


It’s not easy to tell what interested Epstein in Gell-Mann so much. Gell-Mann knew a wealth of highly classified information going back to the 50s. The Santa Fe Institute was likely working on a lot of artificial intelligence applications. Maybe it was all of it; maybe something specific, but definitely Espionage, and probably blackmail.

Blackmail? Some of the experiments and research our government has done to human beings is so scandalous to be very good blackmail material. You can read more on the JASON/ALICE model soldiers here by Fiona Barnett. There’s no telling how much Gell-Mann knew about this, but he was part of the JASON group which was responsible for the experiments and so forth that created genetically-modified and mind-controlled “Super Soldiers.” There was also extensive genetic research was going on at Los Alamos National Laboratory which he Gell-Mann was closely associated with.

I believe Gell-Mann would be willing to provide Epstein with the most sensitive and embarrassing information he was aware of. I don’t use national orgin, race, religion or anything like that to disparage anyone, but facts are that your loyalties play a role in Espionage. Gell-Mann was in fact a Jewish immigrant, and Epstein was certainly working for Israel according to several well-founded reports.

PROMIS was another huge deal, even as late as 1993 when Epstein and Gell-Mann were having such long conversations. Later Osama bin Laden wound up with this program after he supposedly acquired it from Russia somehow after Robert Hanssen stole in around 1999. I’m not so sure how PROMIS was modified over the years and transferred around the world, I’m just pretty sure it was used to model how financial markets around the world would react to 9/11. In any case I think the United States needs to investigate Epstein’s association with Murray Gell-Mann.



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